Curbside Consult with Dr. Jayne 8/4/25
I recently had the opportunity to spend some time with a computer engineering student who was looking to learn about healthcare information technology. Specifically, he was curious about the role that clinicians play in the field.
We had some great conversations and the experience was very enjoyable, in large part because few of the discussions centered on AI. He has a particular interest in cybersecurity, so our initial conversations had some fairly deep coverage of the topic. He was interested in learning more about how hospitals and health systems handle the backup and recovery process, particularly when a security incident might have occurred. Based on a couple of his comments, I think I surprised him by being able to provide a deeper discussion of the topic than he expected to hear from a physician.
It was a good opportunity to explain the field of clinical informatics and how many types of roles we fill. I’m unusual in how much experience I’ve had with infrastructure, architecture, and the nuts and bolts of interoperability. I’ve been fortunate to work with some great engineering and development teams throughout my career, picking up some interesting and unique knowledge along the way. I never thought I’d be able to have conversations about Citrix load balancing or be able to explain the role of transaction log shipping as part of a disaster recovery solution, but you never know where your career is going to take you.
In large part, I learned about those things not because I necessarily wanted to, but because I had to. The first EHR project I was involved in did not go well. A lot of IT folks were techsplaining, which didn’t help me solve the problems that were interfering with my ability to deliver high-quality care.
Although I think that many of them were just talking in their everyday language — similar to how physicians talk among themselves, without trying to leave me out of the conversation — I experienced more than one situation where an IT staff member was treating me in a way that was equivalent to patting me on the head and saying, “Don’t worry about this, little lady.”
After one of those encounters, I decided that I would need to hold my own, so I started doing a lot of reading. I figured if I could learn biochemistry and the complexities of the human nervous system I could certainly learn some of this new language and how all the technology was supposed to be working compared to how it was actually performing in the field.
Thinking about how information access has changed, learning about those domains would be a lot easier now than back in the days when only 5% of physicians were using electronic health records. You couldn’t just pop into your web browser and find articles about implementing systems in hospitals, because we were just getting started. Meaningful Use wasn’t yet a thing, and those of us that were trying to bring up systems were doing it because we thought we could revolutionize patient care, not because someone was making us do it.
Hospitals had electronic laboratory and monitoring systems and of course billing, but computerized order entry wasn’t even on the radar of physicians. Heck, we couldn’t even print patient labels from the computer system at one of my hospitals. They were still using Addressograph cards to add patient information to the paper used for writing daily progress notes.
We went down the internet rabbit hole as I was trying to explain that piece of equipment to my student. I wish I had a picture of the look on his face when I explained how a similar technology was once used to process credit cards at businesses. Apparently you can buy a vintage credit card imprinter machine via various online resale sites, for those of you who miss the very specific noise made when the charge card was pressed under the carbon paper.
That led to a good conversation around the idea that 40 years ago, we had no frame of reference for the technologies that we would be using today. No one would have guessed that we could simply tap our credit cards on a machine to pay, let alone load that credit card information into a palm-sized phone and use it to pay as well. I can’t even imagine how things will work in 40 years, and I hope that when he’s later in his career, he will have the experience of being able to share stories of how things used to be with someone who is just starting out.
We also had some interesting conversations about healthcare in general, and particularly around healthcare finance and how the revenue cycle works. In my opinion, it’s one of the messier aspects of the US healthcare system, and opportunities exist to make it better.
We had a good conversation around how claim adjudication works and why it’s rare in our area to see an organization that is doing real-time claims adjudication. Some of the practices that I go to don’t even collect your co-pay during the office visit, so I can’t imagine what a big shock it would be to use a system like that.
I also ended up teaching him how to read an Explanation of Benefits statement, which I think was an eye-opener, especially for someone who doesn’t have a lot of patient-side experience in his relatively brief adulthood.
I enjoyed learning about some of the non-healthcare work that the engineering student has done as he works towards his degree. Also, the supplemental activities that are available to students that didn’t exist when I was in school. His school has competitive rocketry, drone, and Mars rover teams where students can apply what they’re learning as early as the first semester. We had to wait until our junior year to really have experiential learning opportunities and they certainly weren’t as cool as any of those.
Although I tried to bring healthcare and healthcare technology to life, I’m not sure it’s going to be as cool as some of the other career options that will undoubtedly be available to him, especially if he’s leaning towards cybersecurity and cryptography. He’ll be back next week, and I plan to cover topics including robotics, prosthetics, and human-computer interaction. I might still be able to convince him that healthcare can be cool.
What do you think are the coolest technologies we’re using in healthcare, beyond AI? Leave a comment or email me.
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