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EPtalk by Dr. Jayne 9/26/24
The hot topic around the virtual physician lounge this week was an article from the American Medical Association (AMA) that identified “Five physician specialties that spend the most time in the EHR.”
Physicians were whipped into a frenzy by the statistic that ambulatory care physicians spend an average of 5.8 hours in the EHR for every eight hours of scheduled patient care time. Even if you adjust for the time one spends in the EHR while you’re seeing a patient – for example, when you’re reviewing the chart, capturing the patient’s story, and writing prescriptions – that means a lot of clinicians are still doing loads of documentation during non-scheduled working hours.
The article cites a study that was published in the Journal of General Internal Medicine that found the highest EHR times per eight hours of scheduled patient care were: infectious disease (8.4), endocrinology (7.7), nephrology (7.5), internal / family medicine (7.3), and hematology (7.2). The lowest EHR times were: dermatology (4.3), surgery (4), ENT (4), orthopedics (3.3), and anesthesiology (2.5).
The study’s lead author, Christine Sinsky, MD, is vice-president of professional satisfaction at the AMA. She notes that, “These are specialties with complicated patients with multiple medical conditions for whom there’s a lot of visit-note documentation, lots of orders, and require a lot of communication between the patient and the physicians or the team between visits, so the inbox time is highest among those five specialties as well.” That inbox time was noted as 0.8 hours of work per eight hours of patient care, on average, but primary care, infectious disease, and endocrinology were at 1.2 hours per eight hours of patient care.
Since orthopedics spends only 0.4 hours in the inbox per eight hours of patient care, she hypothesizes that, “Many of the procedural specialties have hired staff who assist with some of the tasks of order entry, visit-note documentation and being the first responders to the inbox.” Even the lowest-paid orthopedists in my area make twice what a family physician does, so it’s a little easier for them to afford the staff to help them get through the day.
I dug into the article itself and found that it used data from more than 200,000 physicians at 400 organizations. The source was Epic’s Signal platform, which measures physician activity both within and outside scheduled working hours.
Sinsky calls on EHR vendors to reduce the burden of documentation, including the number of screens and clicks that it takes to perform specific tasks. She cites the click count that is needed to document ordering and administering a single vaccination at 32, which I agree is a tragic level of clicks. My favorite EHR took three to order (launch immunizations, click influenza, click order) and six to administer (open the order, side/site picklist, manufacturer, lot/expiration picklist, checkbox to confirm the Vaccine Information Statement publication date, click save) with an optional click or two if you needed to change the sequence number on a vaccination for a patient who had received previous doses elsewhere. I’d be interested to hear from readers how many clicks it takes in your system, and what they are beyond the basics noted above.
It will be interesting to see what this data looks like in the future, when we can have before-and-after studies that follow the implementation of ambient/AI documentation solutions. We also need to continue to look at payment models that deliver enough revenue to primary care and other specialties with complex patients so that they can hire adequate support staff. I worked for many years with a human scribe in a practice and I can vouch for the difference that it makes in how you spend your day.
I was also fortunate enough to spend a good chunk of my career working for an organization that felt that physicians needed to be seeing patients and not doing other tasks, so it was rare that a phone or inbox message came to me. When it did, it had already been managed by staff as much as possible. Not every organization shares this belief, though, and many rely on the after-hours labor of their physicians to keep the practice running.
One of the physicians in the discussion said, “They know we’ll do it even when they cut our pay, because we care about our patients even when the hospital doesn’t.” That provides more than an inkling of the level of moral injury our physician colleagues are experiencing. Another noted that her practice’s own Signal data showed that primary care physicians are doing an additional 3-4 hours of charting each night at home. She concluded, “Why are they going to pay a scribe $15 per hour when they know we’ll do the work for free?”
From there, the conversation hopped to topics such as overthrowing corporate overlords and whether lottery tickets might be a good investment for the physician on the go, so I stopped following. If you’re from an organization that’s aggressively addressing these concerns, I’d love to hear more about your efforts and what you’ve learned to date.
NCQA has released health plan ratings that might be helpful to individuals as they go through employer open enrollment plans. The ratings include 1,000 health plans, including commercial payers, Medicare, and Medicaid options. Data is from the 2023 calendar year and plans are rated on a five-point scale. The quality measures contributing to the ratings, include those on clinical quality, patient experience, and health plan structure and quality processes.
This year includes expanded quality measures that assess whether health plans capture race and ethnicity data for their members in an effort to provide relevant services. Notable quality improvements were seen in reported control of hypertension and diabetes, as well as appropriate testing for patients with sore throat. One concerning quality indicator was a decline in childhood immunizations, which should be worrisome across the board.
I looked up my own plan and found that they have 3.5 out of 5 overall, with only 2.5 for patient experience. Childhood immunizations were at 4 stars, adolescent immunizations at 3 stars, and there were plenty of 4-star scores for prenatal / postnatal care, breast and cervical cancer screening, diabetes care, and appropriate use of antibiotics.
Those scores are due to the diligence of the providers who are enrolled in the plan rather than the plan itself, so it seems weird to see the plan taking credit for it. I’ve never received any kind of health communication from my plan, and I also know that my physicians participate in plenty of other insurance plans that are also claiming credit for their good work. Only in the US do we see this kind of fuzzy logic, but at least it’s something transparent, I guess.
More stories from the patient-side trenches this week, as I started receiving bills from my healthcare adventures over the summer. I remember back in the early days of EHR/PM implementations where we were piloting real-time claims adjudication. Nearly two decades have passed and I have yet to see an office that does it.
In fact, with one of my current physicians, they didn’t send a statement to the patient until more than 60 days after the insurance posted to the account. Definitely not a revenue cycle best practice. When I received my paper bill, I looked for a way to pay it online. There wasn’t one, nor was there one on the practice’s patient portal. Not even a phone number to pay via that route. I literally had to write a paper check, which gave me a laugh when I looked at the check register and saw how long it’s been since I’ve written one, coupled with the fact that the calendar on the back of the register dates to 2017. Fortunately, the pathology lab associated with the procedure had an online payment portal, and it took me less than 90 seconds to pay up.
How long has it been since you’ve written a paper check? How old is the calendar in your check register? Leave a comment and let’s see who gets the bragging rights.
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My old CMIO joked that orthpedists only have a 300 word vocabulary, so maybe that explains the lesser email time? 🙂
Not to reveal myself as a baby, but I’m still using the checkbooks I received with my first checking account. They are from Wachovia, and get skepticism every once in a while from those who remember that Wachovia hasn’t existed since 2008.