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	<title>Comments on: News 7/24/09</title>
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		<title>By: Needs_Gas</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/07/23/news-72409/comment-page-1/#comment-4898</link>
		<dc:creator>Needs_Gas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@blah
I was an emergency room nurse for years. No of course it&#039;s not a good idea to have &quot;over 40 milllion extra people&quot; come to ERs.

Do I expect people to come to the ER with the flu and ingrown toenails?  YES, because they do it NOW.  The problem is with EMTALA and our current regs we can&#039;t send them away.

IF universal HC passes (and I hope it does not) EMTALA etc...would have to be revised to allow ERs to send away the truly non-emergent cases that clog up the ERs currently.

I don&#039;t know what this has to do with anything that is of concern on HIStalk...but anyone who doesn&#039;t think that people go to the ER with non-emergent complaints needed addressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@blah<br />
I was an emergency room nurse for years. No of course it&#8217;s not a good idea to have &#8220;over 40 milllion extra people&#8221; come to ERs.</p>
<p>Do I expect people to come to the ER with the flu and ingrown toenails?  YES, because they do it NOW.  The problem is with EMTALA and our current regs we can&#8217;t send them away.</p>
<p>IF universal HC passes (and I hope it does not) EMTALA etc&#8230;would have to be revised to allow ERs to send away the truly non-emergent cases that clog up the ERs currently.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what this has to do with anything that is of concern on HIStalk&#8230;but anyone who doesn&#8217;t think that people go to the ER with non-emergent complaints needed addressing.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/07/23/news-72409/comment-page-1/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ El Jefe that quote comes from an ETNA CEO right?

Ask any emergency room doctor or nurse if they think its a good idea to send over 40 million extra people to them. Do you really expect the uninsured to go to the E.R with flu? Or an in-growing toe nail? Come on. &quot;Common sense&quot;? No, plain stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ El Jefe that quote comes from an ETNA CEO right?</p>
<p>Ask any emergency room doctor or nurse if they think its a good idea to send over 40 million extra people to them. Do you really expect the uninsured to go to the E.R with flu? Or an in-growing toe nail? Come on. &#8220;Common sense&#8221;? No, plain stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: No Meek Mouse</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/07/23/news-72409/comment-page-1/#comment-4894</link>
		<dc:creator>No Meek Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PETA and Cerner.  Oh good lord.  Can&#039;t PETA find something more worthwhile to worry about?  Mice are vermin.  They spread disease.  Most ways that you exterminate them are somewhat inhumane.  And what does this have to do with the quality of systems that Cerner develops, sells and implements?  Nothing.  Why don&#039;t we poll all the Healthcare IT companies and see how they deal with their mice problem?  I&#039;m sure the results will be illuminating and a barometer of how well that company is ran.

Not a slam on you Mr. HISTalk - just sayin&#039;... this ain&#039;t really news.  It&#039;s a nuisance, like vermin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA and Cerner.  Oh good lord.  Can&#8217;t PETA find something more worthwhile to worry about?  Mice are vermin.  They spread disease.  Most ways that you exterminate them are somewhat inhumane.  And what does this have to do with the quality of systems that Cerner develops, sells and implements?  Nothing.  Why don&#8217;t we poll all the Healthcare IT companies and see how they deal with their mice problem?  I&#8217;m sure the results will be illuminating and a barometer of how well that company is ran.</p>
<p>Not a slam on you Mr. HISTalk &#8211; just sayin&#8217;&#8230; this ain&#8217;t really news.  It&#8217;s a nuisance, like vermin.</p>
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		<title>By: El Jefe</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/07/23/news-72409/comment-page-1/#comment-4893</link>
		<dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you U.S. healthcare system haters out there...
&quot;I have a simple question.  If health care is such a catastrophe in this country, if there is such a pressing, overwhelming need for reform, why didn&#039;t any of the $1 trillion in Porkulus money go to insuring those who don&#039;t have any insurance?  Why didn&#039;t that happen?  If there are truely 47 million uninsured people out there (U.S. citizens) for a measly $100 billion, you could buy a health insurance policy for a full year for every person who can&#039;t afford it.  That&#039;s twelve million people, people that can&#039;t afford it!

Now, we just spent a trillion dollars in Porkulus.  Why didn&#039;t we buy health insurance for all those suffering people if it&#039;s such a catastrophe?  But wait! What about all the TARP, all the bailouts? Why do we need to spend a trillion dollars on health care to insure people?   Why didn&#039;t the stimulus bill pay for health insurance for the downtrodden?  Why not send billions to emergency rooms and hospitals who provide care for anybody who walks in?  Why not do that?  Why didn&#039;t Obama rescue the people without health insurance while he was rescuing the economy?  We have a deficit we can&#039;t pay off; we have unemployment about to go double-digit; Obama wants to destroy the health insurance policies a huge majority of Americans have and like.  He isn&#039;t rescuing anything.  He&#039;s destroying it.   Destroying the American economy is not how anybody helps people and this health care debacle is an absolute debacle.  It has no prayer of working and providing greater health care. &quot;

A slice of common sense anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you U.S. healthcare system haters out there&#8230;<br />
&#8220;I have a simple question.  If health care is such a catastrophe in this country, if there is such a pressing, overwhelming need for reform, why didn&#8217;t any of the $1 trillion in Porkulus money go to insuring those who don&#8217;t have any insurance?  Why didn&#8217;t that happen?  If there are truely 47 million uninsured people out there (U.S. citizens) for a measly $100 billion, you could buy a health insurance policy for a full year for every person who can&#8217;t afford it.  That&#8217;s twelve million people, people that can&#8217;t afford it!</p>
<p>Now, we just spent a trillion dollars in Porkulus.  Why didn&#8217;t we buy health insurance for all those suffering people if it&#8217;s such a catastrophe?  But wait! What about all the TARP, all the bailouts? Why do we need to spend a trillion dollars on health care to insure people?   Why didn&#8217;t the stimulus bill pay for health insurance for the downtrodden?  Why not send billions to emergency rooms and hospitals who provide care for anybody who walks in?  Why not do that?  Why didn&#8217;t Obama rescue the people without health insurance while he was rescuing the economy?  We have a deficit we can&#8217;t pay off; we have unemployment about to go double-digit; Obama wants to destroy the health insurance policies a huge majority of Americans have and like.  He isn&#8217;t rescuing anything.  He&#8217;s destroying it.   Destroying the American economy is not how anybody helps people and this health care debacle is an absolute debacle.  It has no prayer of working and providing greater health care. &#8221;</p>
<p>A slice of common sense anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Fact Checker</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/07/23/news-72409/comment-page-1/#comment-4889</link>
		<dc:creator>Fact Checker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NJ Politico, 
the correct spelling of Herb&#039;s last name is: CONAWAY.

A good way to remember this, is as it states in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary is: &quot;CON&quot; as in convict or against, and &quot;AWAY&quot; as in out of the way (incarcerated, confined).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ Politico,<br />
the correct spelling of Herb&#8217;s last name is: CONAWAY.</p>
<p>A good way to remember this, is as it states in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary is: &#8220;CON&#8221; as in convict or against, and &#8220;AWAY&#8221; as in out of the way (incarcerated, confined).</p>
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