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	<title>Comments on: News 5/15/09</title>
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		<title>By: Just a nobody</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/05/14/news-51509/comment-page-1/#comment-4303</link>
		<dc:creator>Just a nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Eckert&#039;s Sweatheart Deal:

I&#039;m not lover of big CEO payouts, and certainly don&#039;t believe Andy earned that kind of cabbage, but can I also can&#039;t stand by with incorrect data being stated as facts:

Stock price - It was about $16-$17 when Andy took over; it is around $14-$15 today; the rest of the market is down some 30%. You can&#039;t compare the two.

Klas scores - I don&#039;t know what the Klas scores were when he took over, but I do know that Eclipsys has climbed in the rankings during his tenure. Eclipsys is 2nd in clinicals and 3 in financials (last I looked). This is up from 4th or 5th in clinicals and 4th in financials when he took over.

Fewer customers - Can you back this up with hard data? I believe Eclipsys has added to it&#039;s customer base, even if you remove the customers added through acquisition. 

Customers leaving in droves - can you please provide examples/statistics?  Sure there are some existing customers leaving, but you have that in almost any established company. I believe the customers being added far outweigh the customers being lost. 

Customers unhappy - again, can you please provide statistics? Customer satisfaction has been Andy&#039;s montra since he began at Eclipsys. Since they have moved up the Klas rankings, I would conclude that statisfaction is trending up.

Quarter of the company outsourced to India - I don&#039;t know how many people are working for Eclipsys in India, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;s significant (500?) That still would not equate 25% of the company. Also, my understanding is that the international business is being driven and support from India, so while most of these folks are working on US products, a good number of them are developing/support/selling to the international market.

Again, I am sickened by Andy&#039;s golden parachute, but please stick to the facts, and back up your claims and/or cite your sources. It&#039;s already hard to seperate fact from fiction; nobody needs fact-less rumors flying around.

If you believe I am in error in any of my analysis (I am not perfect), I would welcome some back-up to prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Eckert&#8217;s Sweatheart Deal:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not lover of big CEO payouts, and certainly don&#8217;t believe Andy earned that kind of cabbage, but can I also can&#8217;t stand by with incorrect data being stated as facts:</p>
<p>Stock price &#8211; It was about $16-$17 when Andy took over; it is around $14-$15 today; the rest of the market is down some 30%. You can&#8217;t compare the two.</p>
<p>Klas scores &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what the Klas scores were when he took over, but I do know that Eclipsys has climbed in the rankings during his tenure. Eclipsys is 2nd in clinicals and 3 in financials (last I looked). This is up from 4th or 5th in clinicals and 4th in financials when he took over.</p>
<p>Fewer customers &#8211; Can you back this up with hard data? I believe Eclipsys has added to it&#8217;s customer base, even if you remove the customers added through acquisition. </p>
<p>Customers leaving in droves &#8211; can you please provide examples/statistics?  Sure there are some existing customers leaving, but you have that in almost any established company. I believe the customers being added far outweigh the customers being lost. </p>
<p>Customers unhappy &#8211; again, can you please provide statistics? Customer satisfaction has been Andy&#8217;s montra since he began at Eclipsys. Since they have moved up the Klas rankings, I would conclude that statisfaction is trending up.</p>
<p>Quarter of the company outsourced to India &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how many people are working for Eclipsys in India, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s significant (500?) That still would not equate 25% of the company. Also, my understanding is that the international business is being driven and support from India, so while most of these folks are working on US products, a good number of them are developing/support/selling to the international market.</p>
<p>Again, I am sickened by Andy&#8217;s golden parachute, but please stick to the facts, and back up your claims and/or cite your sources. It&#8217;s already hard to seperate fact from fiction; nobody needs fact-less rumors flying around.</p>
<p>If you believe I am in error in any of my analysis (I am not perfect), I would welcome some back-up to prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hinckley</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/05/14/news-51509/comment-page-1/#comment-4302</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Hinckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended the Allscripts EHR Stimulus Tour event in Dallas (hosted by Cisco). It was well done and informative if you&#039;re a provider who doesn&#039;t like reading the fine print issued by the government. It was well attended and had a mix of providers and non-alliance vendors looking for information. Attendees were treated to breakfast, a t-shirt and 10 minutes in the rain when a storm triggered the fire alarm forcing an evacuation into the parking lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended the Allscripts EHR Stimulus Tour event in Dallas (hosted by Cisco). It was well done and informative if you&#8217;re a provider who doesn&#8217;t like reading the fine print issued by the government. It was well attended and had a mix of providers and non-alliance vendors looking for information. Attendees were treated to breakfast, a t-shirt and 10 minutes in the rain when a storm triggered the fire alarm forcing an evacuation into the parking lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Weider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Weider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 19:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I get for going by memory.  Google Apps is $50 per user per YEAR.  The disparity is not as wide as I had stated.  Still, we calculated we could provide email service less expensively than Google.  That was the primary basis for continuing to run our own Exchange server.

Having greater control over things like eDiscovery and archiving was another factor.

My family uses Google Apps as our home email service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I get for going by memory.  Google Apps is $50 per user per YEAR.  The disparity is not as wide as I had stated.  Still, we calculated we could provide email service less expensively than Google.  That was the primary basis for continuing to run our own Exchange server.</p>
<p>Having greater control over things like eDiscovery and archiving was another factor.</p>
<p>My family uses Google Apps as our home email service.</p>
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		<title>By: TPD plea</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2009/05/14/news-51509/comment-page-1/#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>TPD plea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 06:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TPD - If we just all one time acknowledge your greatness, could we avoid future statements like:

&quot;TPD has worked directly with customers during an entire career that spawns over 35 years to get customers the best solutions for their work environment!&quot;

in every post?

Maybe Mr. HISTalk could add a positive affirmations bar to the right or something where we could acknowledge and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPD &#8211; If we just all one time acknowledge your greatness, could we avoid future statements like:</p>
<p>&#8220;TPD has worked directly with customers during an entire career that spawns over 35 years to get customers the best solutions for their work environment!&#8221;</p>
<p>in every post?</p>
<p>Maybe Mr. HISTalk could add a positive affirmations bar to the right or something where we could acknowledge and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: The PACS Designer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The PACS Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the lead, TPD will review what&#039;s on the link and contact someone for further discussion being that custom design architecture is one of my strong points!  Thanks to Mr. H for providing the medium from where the posting of needs can be discussed intelligently!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the lead, TPD will review what&#8217;s on the link and contact someone for further discussion being that custom design architecture is one of my strong points!  Thanks to Mr. H for providing the medium from where the posting of needs can be discussed intelligently!</p>
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