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	<title>Comments on: House Stimulus Bill Draft Calls for $2 Billion for ONCHIT, $18 Billion for CMS P4P Incentives</title>
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		<title>By: Lazlo Hollyfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazlo Hollyfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of hype but the House stimulus bill will likely have some significant modifications especially to ensure it gets the support it needs to pass through the Senate.  Take the figures in the House stimulus bill with a grain of salt.  

If that $2B stimulus spending does stick and I were a betting man, I would get that Academic Medical Centers are going to push hard on their senators and congressman to get their hands on that money.  Maybe some community hospitals system get a slice of the pie since it is large but I bet that any hospital under 200 beds likely won&#039;t get a stiff of it unless they decide to play nice with their large AMC brethren..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of hype but the House stimulus bill will likely have some significant modifications especially to ensure it gets the support it needs to pass through the Senate.  Take the figures in the House stimulus bill with a grain of salt.  </p>
<p>If that $2B stimulus spending does stick and I were a betting man, I would get that Academic Medical Centers are going to push hard on their senators and congressman to get their hands on that money.  Maybe some community hospitals system get a slice of the pie since it is large but I bet that any hospital under 200 beds likely won&#8217;t get a stiff of it unless they decide to play nice with their large AMC brethren..</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptic, if you think the timing of their report (the IOM Report on Computer Research in Health IT) was coincidence, I&#039;d think again.  This is simply their way to ask for money.  Decry all that has gone before, tell the world not to spend more on it, and instead give them your money and they&#039;ll create a new shining path for all to follow.

What computer science students do you think build the systems we have today?  Think they might have graduated from the same schools whose professors along with Google and Intel sounded the alarm to stop using what&#039;s already out there until they can get some government money to create something truly genious for you to buy instead?  

I wonder how much clout Schmidt would have if not for the a couple of young guys who just got out there and did something clever.  Easy to have friends in goverment when you&#039;re a billionaire.  Also, how  long will we have to listen to Jonathan Bush now that Todd Park is gone?  His 15 minutes of fame should be up sometime soon.

When people can&#039;t compete in the market, their last resort is to spend some their cash to get a few politians to change the rules of the game in their favor.  That kind of business is what brought down the financial market.  Let&#039;s wise up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptic, if you think the timing of their report (the IOM Report on Computer Research in Health IT) was coincidence, I&#8217;d think again.  This is simply their way to ask for money.  Decry all that has gone before, tell the world not to spend more on it, and instead give them your money and they&#8217;ll create a new shining path for all to follow.</p>
<p>What computer science students do you think build the systems we have today?  Think they might have graduated from the same schools whose professors along with Google and Intel sounded the alarm to stop using what&#8217;s already out there until they can get some government money to create something truly genious for you to buy instead?  </p>
<p>I wonder how much clout Schmidt would have if not for the a couple of young guys who just got out there and did something clever.  Easy to have friends in goverment when you&#8217;re a billionaire.  Also, how  long will we have to listen to Jonathan Bush now that Todd Park is gone?  His 15 minutes of fame should be up sometime soon.</p>
<p>When people can&#8217;t compete in the market, their last resort is to spend some their cash to get a few politians to change the rules of the game in their favor.  That kind of business is what brought down the financial market.  Let&#8217;s wise up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mountain Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountain Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Skeptic above.  I thought the National Research Council and IOM published an almost &quot;dangerous&quot; document.  

It certainly contrasts the national agenda to be a catalyst in adoption.  In fact is almost says...&quot;stop everything&quot;.  

I agree with the premise that we must focus on outcomes and not technology, and technology adoption does not create better outcomes.  These adoptions should not be &quot;IT projects&quot;.  They are process improvement and change management projects.  Anyone just trying to install software and hardware will fail and ultimately not achieve the goal of making it &quot;safer for patients and easier for clinicians&quot;.  In that regard the NRC was correct.  The message could be managed better to align with the Presidents.

This is not a chicken and egg situation.  We must start with the technology, capturing codified information in order to track outcome performance.  Striving for perfection out of the gate will create a stall in the process that we may never overcome.

My two cents...FWIW (one cent)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Skeptic above.  I thought the National Research Council and IOM published an almost &#8220;dangerous&#8221; document.  </p>
<p>It certainly contrasts the national agenda to be a catalyst in adoption.  In fact is almost says&#8230;&#8221;stop everything&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I agree with the premise that we must focus on outcomes and not technology, and technology adoption does not create better outcomes.  These adoptions should not be &#8220;IT projects&#8221;.  They are process improvement and change management projects.  Anyone just trying to install software and hardware will fail and ultimately not achieve the goal of making it &#8220;safer for patients and easier for clinicians&#8221;.  In that regard the NRC was correct.  The message could be managed better to align with the Presidents.</p>
<p>This is not a chicken and egg situation.  We must start with the technology, capturing codified information in order to track outcome performance.  Striving for perfection out of the gate will create a stall in the process that we may never overcome.</p>
<p>My two cents&#8230;FWIW (one cent)</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the while, the National Research Council says we don&#039;t really know how to do HIT properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the while, the National Research Council says we don&#8217;t really know how to do HIT properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jedi Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jedi Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading through the speaker list thinking &quot;Microsoft&quot;?  Let me guess - let&#039;s all use Health Vault.

They should use their marketing clout somewhere else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading through the speaker list thinking &#8220;Microsoft&#8221;?  Let me guess &#8211; let&#8217;s all use Health Vault.</p>
<p>They should use their marketing clout somewhere else&#8230;</p>
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