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	<title>Comments on: News 12/19/08</title>
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		<title>By: back2basics</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/12/18/news-121908/comment-page-1/#comment-2892</link>
		<dc:creator>back2basics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Fine : The interface engine you decide on will dictate the skill sets you are looking for. If you go down the path of Ensemble (as quiet a few EPIC clients do) you should look for somebody with M experience, may I suggest somebody like Henry Elliot as a good recruiter on that front. And that may be worth looking at, as having an M or Cache developer on the team is increasingly a good plan for making small customizations to EPIC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Fine : The interface engine you decide on will dictate the skill sets you are looking for. If you go down the path of Ensemble (as quiet a few EPIC clients do) you should look for somebody with M experience, may I suggest somebody like Henry Elliot as a good recruiter on that front. And that may be worth looking at, as having an M or Cache developer on the team is increasingly a good plan for making small customizations to EPIC.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe Froman</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/12/18/news-121908/comment-page-1/#comment-2874</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe Froman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked with Toby Samo when I was at Eclipsys, working on the Methodist project. Big win for ECLP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked with Toby Samo when I was at Eclipsys, working on the Methodist project. Big win for ECLP!</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Dharma</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/12/18/news-121908/comment-page-1/#comment-2871</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Dharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ASP is less expensive&quot; is the mantra of essentially every vendor I&#039;ve ever spoken to...who sells an ASP solution.  I used to be on the &quot;ASP/Medical Vendor&quot; mailing list (some originally prominent folks from emrupdate.com were there) and we heard it all the time.  Are you suggesting this isn&#039;t the primary ASP selling point stated by salespeople to docs every day?

&quot;Backup services&quot; and &quot;disaster recovery&quot; should be measured in pennies a day or even a few bucks.  Hardly a difference. 

Meanwhile, I&#039;d love Chad Greer to go on record stating how long practices who purchased the entire system as recently as the middle of 2008 can expect support on their Legacy products.  That&#039;s some Human Touch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ASP is less expensive&#8221; is the mantra of essentially every vendor I&#8217;ve ever spoken to&#8230;who sells an ASP solution.  I used to be on the &#8220;ASP/Medical Vendor&#8221; mailing list (some originally prominent folks from emrupdate.com were there) and we heard it all the time.  Are you suggesting this isn&#8217;t the primary ASP selling point stated by salespeople to docs every day?</p>
<p>&#8220;Backup services&#8221; and &#8220;disaster recovery&#8221; should be measured in pennies a day or even a few bucks.  Hardly a difference. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d love Chad Greer to go on record stating how long practices who purchased the entire system as recently as the middle of 2008 can expect support on their Legacy products.  That&#8217;s some Human Touch!</p>
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		<title>By: RXpete</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/12/18/news-121908/comment-page-1/#comment-2870</link>
		<dc:creator>RXpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Buck Dharma

How can ASP be less expensive than internal hosting of licensed software?  With ASP the cost of the back end hardware is borne by the ASP host.  Typically, the ASP host also provides backup services and possibly complete disaster recovery.  All these costs would be in addition to any license fees.

ASP may be less costly in a comparison with internal hosting when all the costs on the client side are factored in but the fees/costs from the ASP/legacy vendor will surely be higher for ASP versus legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Buck Dharma</p>
<p>How can ASP be less expensive than internal hosting of licensed software?  With ASP the cost of the back end hardware is borne by the ASP host.  Typically, the ASP host also provides backup services and possibly complete disaster recovery.  All these costs would be in addition to any license fees.</p>
<p>ASP may be less costly in a comparison with internal hosting when all the costs on the client side are factored in but the fees/costs from the ASP/legacy vendor will surely be higher for ASP versus legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mabel</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/12/18/news-121908/comment-page-1/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Mabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry Fine:  I&#039;m a contractor that is holding onto what I have.  Previously if I had the skills, I may have been interested because of the Epic potential, but now I&#039;m just happy for stability.  I don&#039;t think people are as daring or cavalier about jumping job to job as they once were - the offer would have to be out of this world(for me at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Fine:  I&#8217;m a contractor that is holding onto what I have.  Previously if I had the skills, I may have been interested because of the Epic potential, but now I&#8217;m just happy for stability.  I don&#8217;t think people are as daring or cavalier about jumping job to job as they once were &#8211; the offer would have to be out of this world(for me at least).</p>
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