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		<title>By: BadgerbyChoice</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/06/28/monday-morning-update-63008/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>BadgerbyChoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things about Epic.....

1) The judicial race between Gableman and Butler was about as filthy as could be with the vast majority of the lies coming from the WMC ads.  This is not my opinion alone.  Newsweek, in an unusual move for a nationalmagazine,  covered the story.  You can find its story here: http://www.newsweek.com/id/119952  (The article was written by Viveca Novak of Factcheck.org, a non-partisan reporting agency.)

2) This is not the first time the WMC has boosted a judge onto the Supreme Court.  Their first one was a woman named Annette Ziegler who was elected in April, 2007.  WMC spent two million dollars on her election.  One of her first duties was to accept a reprimand from her fellow justices because she did not recuse herself from cases involving a bank her husband helps run.  In my not so humble opinion, it looks as if the WMC has found out how to pack courts and will continue to do so.

3) What the WMC does not like is someone with guts and strength standing up to them.  Epic is standing up so the local conservative bloggers in Madison are throwing their unwarranted accusations at Epic in the hope of diverting people from the scum at WMC.

4) I have been reading this blog for quite a while and I have noticed a lot of people throw garbage Epic&#039;s way for no particular reason.  Fourth Hansen Brother is one of them.  I, too, hang around the IT community in Madison and I have never heard Judy referred to in the manner FHB  suggests.  (By the way, a good chunk of that community works at Epic.)

5) I worked at Epic for a couple of years and I would like to say:
  (a) Epic is not a cult.
  (b) The people who work there are smart and work hard but not the incredible hours imputed to them.
 (c) They do not worship Judy but they do respect her and they also respect their colleagues.
 (d) Judy does work the incredible hours imputed to her.
 (e) OK.  So I don&#039;t like her taste in art.   So what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things about Epic&#8230;..</p>
<p>1) The judicial race between Gableman and Butler was about as filthy as could be with the vast majority of the lies coming from the WMC ads.  This is not my opinion alone.  Newsweek, in an unusual move for a nationalmagazine,  covered the story.  You can find its story here: <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/119952" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/119952</a>  (The article was written by Viveca Novak of Factcheck.org, a non-partisan reporting agency.)</p>
<p>2) This is not the first time the WMC has boosted a judge onto the Supreme Court.  Their first one was a woman named Annette Ziegler who was elected in April, 2007.  WMC spent two million dollars on her election.  One of her first duties was to accept a reprimand from her fellow justices because she did not recuse herself from cases involving a bank her husband helps run.  In my not so humble opinion, it looks as if the WMC has found out how to pack courts and will continue to do so.</p>
<p>3) What the WMC does not like is someone with guts and strength standing up to them.  Epic is standing up so the local conservative bloggers in Madison are throwing their unwarranted accusations at Epic in the hope of diverting people from the scum at WMC.</p>
<p>4) I have been reading this blog for quite a while and I have noticed a lot of people throw garbage Epic&#8217;s way for no particular reason.  Fourth Hansen Brother is one of them.  I, too, hang around the IT community in Madison and I have never heard Judy referred to in the manner FHB  suggests.  (By the way, a good chunk of that community works at Epic.)</p>
<p>5) I worked at Epic for a couple of years and I would like to say:<br />
  (a) Epic is not a cult.<br />
  (b) The people who work there are smart and work hard but not the incredible hours imputed to them.<br />
 (c) They do not worship Judy but they do respect her and they also respect their colleagues.<br />
 (d) Judy does work the incredible hours imputed to her.<br />
 (e) OK.  So I don&#8217;t like her taste in art.   So what.</p>
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		<title>By: slingblade</title>
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		<dc:creator>slingblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Skelton and Goldberg be able to duplicate the phenomenal success of Misys for Medcom Soft? If so they are worth at least  a 25% reduction in their market cap. Hope they can make an acquisition because there will be no organic growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Skelton and Goldberg be able to duplicate the phenomenal success of Misys for Medcom Soft? If so they are worth at least  a 25% reduction in their market cap. Hope they can make an acquisition because there will be no organic growth.</p>
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		<title>By: HISReader</title>
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		<dc:creator>HISReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you Mr. HISTalk.  That comment about Judy is inappropriate  and should have been filtered out.  No one deserves that in a moderated blog.

And, a simple count of UW students at Epic would render his comment for what it is - garbage.  And, the builder of phase one was unseated by the builder of the previous buildings in Madison who did a great job.  Both firms have done pretty well as you can tell by walking around.  Both firms have collected many awards and show the place off routinely  as an example of their best work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you Mr. HISTalk.  That comment about Judy is inappropriate  and should have been filtered out.  No one deserves that in a moderated blog.</p>
<p>And, a simple count of UW students at Epic would render his comment for what it is &#8211; garbage.  And, the builder of phase one was unseated by the builder of the previous buildings in Madison who did a great job.  Both firms have done pretty well as you can tell by walking around.  Both firms have collected many awards and show the place off routinely  as an example of their best work.</p>
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		<title>By: Aesculaplus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aesculaplus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Epic and WMC-

Not sure why you have a problem with Epic flexing their muscle about something they care about. There is a free-for-all going on right now. Churches, judges, conservative organization who are all supporting their beliefs that they promote as morally right.

Remember the secrete meeting at the White House with Cheney? All the big oil companies were asked to come in and help with the country&#039;s energy policy. I don&#039;t know about you but as a consumer I thought I might have something to add.

Or, how about the CEOs of big oil coming to Capital Hill to testify but not under oath. I know when I&#039;ve been testifying the whole under oath thing wasn&#039;t an option.

Smells like rotten eggs to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Epic and WMC-</p>
<p>Not sure why you have a problem with Epic flexing their muscle about something they care about. There is a free-for-all going on right now. Churches, judges, conservative organization who are all supporting their beliefs that they promote as morally right.</p>
<p>Remember the secrete meeting at the White House with Cheney? All the big oil companies were asked to come in and help with the country&#8217;s energy policy. I don&#8217;t know about you but as a consumer I thought I might have something to add.</p>
<p>Or, how about the CEOs of big oil coming to Capital Hill to testify but not under oath. I know when I&#8217;ve been testifying the whole under oath thing wasn&#8217;t an option.</p>
<p>Smells like rotten eggs to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Fourth Hansen Brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fourth Hansen Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being Epic&#039;s contractor is not a great gig at all- the contractor for the first part of the new campus will never work for Epic again -their choice. Rumor has it that the second cntractor will only work on a cost plus basis, and already delays caused by a fight between Epic and the archetects made the contractor vulnerable to manager raiding by another contractor. The stories going through the Madison contstructin industry are pretty vicious. Not that Judy has a great rep anyway- the old IT community calls her &quot;the biggest bitch in Madison&quot;, UW students are advised to stay away from the company, and at least one customer calls Epic &quot;the dark side&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being Epic&#8217;s contractor is not a great gig at all- the contractor for the first part of the new campus will never work for Epic again -their choice. Rumor has it that the second cntractor will only work on a cost plus basis, and already delays caused by a fight between Epic and the archetects made the contractor vulnerable to manager raiding by another contractor. The stories going through the Madison contstructin industry are pretty vicious. Not that Judy has a great rep anyway- the old IT community calls her &#8220;the biggest bitch in Madison&#8221;, UW students are advised to stay away from the company, and at least one customer calls Epic &#8220;the dark side&#8221;.</p>
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