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	<title>Comments on: News 4/30/08</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymis</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/04/29/news-43008/comment-page-1/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the laugh: Planet Hospital? Would you want medical care from a company that doesn&#039;t proofread (or, apparently, read) its own website? Some comforting examples:
   	
&quot;A Lap Band is a silicone belt wrapped around the stomach to control hunger and feel full. &quot;

&quot;A breast augmentation involves the surgical insertion of an implant to create the illusion of larger or more fuller breasts. &quot;

&quot;Cataract surgery will significantly improve the patient&#039;s life by gaining clear eyesight by the removal of the clouded lens of the eye.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the laugh: Planet Hospital? Would you want medical care from a company that doesn&#8217;t proofread (or, apparently, read) its own website? Some comforting examples:</p>
<p>&#8220;A Lap Band is a silicone belt wrapped around the stomach to control hunger and feel full. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A breast augmentation involves the surgical insertion of an implant to create the illusion of larger or more fuller breasts. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cataract surgery will significantly improve the patient&#8217;s life by gaining clear eyesight by the removal of the clouded lens of the eye.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/04/29/news-43008/comment-page-1/#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CalRHIO’s got a much better chance because it reaches beyond areas of local competition and may have learned from the funding mistakes of its predecessors.&quot;

CalRHIO is in a catch-22 situation, because if it doesn&#039;t include data from local competitors, then odds are your patient&#039;s data is not in the system, in which case it has no value, and if they do include local competitors then you have the same issues other RHIOs face.  CalRHIO can&#039;t get around that - if it includes local data there will be competition, and if it doesn&#039;t I&#039;m not going to pay to access it.

If the payors paid for it, which they should because they&#039;re the only ones who benefit financially from a RHIO (other than the patients, who nobody will ask to pay), then it might fly, but it&#039;s got a tough road without that because nobody else can see the value to justify the cost.  Indiana&#039;s business model doesn&#039;t really work outside of the local area, and it&#039;s the only model that&#039;s been shown to succeed.  There&#039;s good reasons these systems generally fail, and it goes back to the US payment model, but that&#039;s a whole other story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CalRHIO’s got a much better chance because it reaches beyond areas of local competition and may have learned from the funding mistakes of its predecessors.&#8221;</p>
<p>CalRHIO is in a catch-22 situation, because if it doesn&#8217;t include data from local competitors, then odds are your patient&#8217;s data is not in the system, in which case it has no value, and if they do include local competitors then you have the same issues other RHIOs face.  CalRHIO can&#8217;t get around that &#8211; if it includes local data there will be competition, and if it doesn&#8217;t I&#8217;m not going to pay to access it.</p>
<p>If the payors paid for it, which they should because they&#8217;re the only ones who benefit financially from a RHIO (other than the patients, who nobody will ask to pay), then it might fly, but it&#8217;s got a tough road without that because nobody else can see the value to justify the cost.  Indiana&#8217;s business model doesn&#8217;t really work outside of the local area, and it&#8217;s the only model that&#8217;s been shown to succeed.  There&#8217;s good reasons these systems generally fail, and it goes back to the US payment model, but that&#8217;s a whole other story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/04/29/news-43008/comment-page-1/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the Indiana HIE  is indeed relatively sustainable,  it has in fact taken grant money.

Value of Health Information Exchange (HIE) in Ambulatory Care:
http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/value_of_hie_in_ambulatory_care.html&amp;gn=1R01HS015409-01

An Evolving State-wide Indiana Information Infrastructure: http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/evolving_state_wide_indiana_information_infrastructure.html&amp;gn=290-04-0015</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the Indiana HIE  is indeed relatively sustainable,  it has in fact taken grant money.</p>
<p>Value of Health Information Exchange (HIE) in Ambulatory Care:<br />
<a href="http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/value_of_hie_in_ambulatory_care.html&amp;gn=1R01HS015409-01" rel="nofollow">http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/value_of_hie_in_ambulatory_care.html&amp;gn=1R01HS015409-01</a></p>
<p>An Evolving State-wide Indiana Information Infrastructure: <a href="http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/evolving_state_wide_indiana_information_infrastructure.html&amp;gn=290-04-0015" rel="nofollow">http://healthit.ahrq.gov/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=654&amp;PageID=11997&amp;mode=2&amp;cached=false&amp;sp=true&amp;pubURL=http://prodportallb.ahrq.gov:7087/publishedcontent/publish/communities/a_e/ahrq_funded_projects/projects/evolving_state_wide_indiana_information_infrastructure.html&amp;gn=290-04-0015</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lazlo Hollyfeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazlo Hollyfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is a fool proof but Brailer&#039;s investment in Prematics is pretty much damn near it.  I have to take a look at what is under the hood but everything from their briefing yesterday was  rock solid.  Brought in the right people (Hutchinson in particular)  and one of the few areas that health plans can see an ROI right off the bat with increased generic substitution .    

I would be shocked if they don&#039;t have at least several major plans signed up by next year including a few of the big nationals and a couple of prominent Blues.  

My bigger interest though is if Brailer is going to be so conservative in general with his investing strategy or if he just really doesn&#039;t much out there that he thinks is worthwhile right now.  My bet is a combination of the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is a fool proof but Brailer&#8217;s investment in Prematics is pretty much damn near it.  I have to take a look at what is under the hood but everything from their briefing yesterday was  rock solid.  Brought in the right people (Hutchinson in particular)  and one of the few areas that health plans can see an ROI right off the bat with increased generic substitution .    </p>
<p>I would be shocked if they don&#8217;t have at least several major plans signed up by next year including a few of the big nationals and a couple of prominent Blues.  </p>
<p>My bigger interest though is if Brailer is going to be so conservative in general with his investing strategy or if he just really doesn&#8217;t much out there that he thinks is worthwhile right now.  My bet is a combination of the two.</p>
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		<title>By: YouGottaBeKidding</title>
		<link>http://histalk2.com/2008/04/29/news-43008/comment-page-1/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>YouGottaBeKidding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen Epic demos.  They are the furthest thing from a ppt demo you could ever imagine.  Multiple PC workstations with one acting as a server, wires all over the table and a clear commitment to always show released software that customers have in hand or to explicitly tell you if you&#039;re seeing something new.  Judy does some ppts with kids in them as a company overview and Carl and others will share support or install info and future development plans as ppts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen Epic demos.  They are the furthest thing from a ppt demo you could ever imagine.  Multiple PC workstations with one acting as a server, wires all over the table and a clear commitment to always show released software that customers have in hand or to explicitly tell you if you&#8217;re seeing something new.  Judy does some ppts with kids in them as a company overview and Carl and others will share support or install info and future development plans as ppts.</p>
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